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[GhostTown68]

I couldn't afford that amount each year.

Best remember that when you cast your vote (or before you abstain) at the forthcoming general election, then.

If 'dog insurance' forms the basis of your voting in May then god help us all.

[George]

If 'dog insurance' forms the basis of your voting in May then god help us all.

Of course not! Even if it might cost you between £200 and £600 per year for dog insurance, perhaps one should consider the bigger picture. But can you ignore the other costs I mentioned above, like Council Tax, fuel duty and - another one - national insurance increases? I think of all these huge cost increases as akin to stealth taxes. How many people will ignore all this, taken together, and still vote Labour just because they've always voted Labour and, in their eyes, the party can do  no wrong?

[Mighty Hatfield]

If 'dog insurance' forms the basis of your voting in May then god help us all.

Of course not! Even if it might cost you between £200 and £600 per year for dog insurance, perhaps one should consider the bigger picture. But can you ignore the other costs I mentioned above, like Council Tax, fuel duty and - another one - national insurance increases? I think of all these huge cost increases as akin to stealth taxes. How many people will ignore all this, taken together, and still vote Labour just because they've always voted Labour and, in their eyes, the party can do  no wrong?

how is an increase in council tax, or NI, a "stealth tax"?

Do you know what is meant by the term "stealth tax"?

Lets not forget, youve been blaming Gordon Brown for almost anything you could remotely link him to for the best part of a year, for instance clamping in the car park next to aldi. I have no problem with that, although it tends to skew the discussion on here somewhat. Just re-read this topic, some of us are talking dog insurance, and the issues that go with it, and all you are talking about is the government and who you will vote for. I think its a real shame.

After all, even the tories arent saying dog insurance is a bad idea, just that a solution is long overdue!

[George]

how is an increase in council tax, or NI, a "stealth tax"?
Do you know what is meant by the term "stealth tax"?
Lets not forget, youve been blaming Gordon Brown for almost anything you could remotely link him to for the best part of a year, for instance clamping in the car park next to aldi. I have no problem with that, although it tends to skew the discussion on here somewhat. Just re-read this topic, some of us are talking dog insurance, and the issues that go with it, and all you are talking about is the government and who you will vote for. I think its a real shame.

I opened this thread and it features the terms 'dog insurance' and 'stealth tax'. How can I be 'off topic' given that I started the topic? I'm keen to answer your questions. Would you prefer me to go further into taxes and other money-rabbing schemes like dog insurance on this thread, or start a new thread?

[disgruntled]

how is an increase in council tax, or NI, a "stealth tax"?
Do you know what is meant by the term "stealth tax"?
Lets not forget, youve been blaming Gordon Brown for almost anything you could remotely link him to for the best part of a year, for instance clamping in the car park next to aldi. I have no problem with that, although it tends to skew the discussion on here somewhat. Just re-read this topic, some of us are talking dog insurance, and the issues that go with it, and all you are talking about is the government and who you will vote for. I think its a real shame.

I opened this thread and it features the terms 'dog insurance' and 'stealth tax'. How can I be 'off topic' given that I started the topic? I'm keen to answer your questions. Would you prefer me to go further into taxes and other money-rabbing schemes like dog insurance on this thread, or start a new thread?

I would go for a new thread because I think Tax and Spend are THE critical issues in the forthecoming election.

Would be nice to stay away from rag top headlines though.
As soon as you start it George I am in.

[GhostTown68]

how is an increase in council tax, or NI, a "stealth tax"?
Do you know what is meant by the term "stealth tax"?
Lets not forget, youve been blaming Gordon Brown for almost anything you could remotely link him to for the best part of a year, for instance clamping in the car park next to aldi. I have no problem with that, although it tends to skew the discussion on here somewhat. Just re-read this topic, some of us are talking dog insurance, and the issues that go with it, and all you are talking about is the government and who you will vote for. I think its a real shame.

I opened this thread and it features the terms 'dog insurance' and 'stealth tax'. How can I be 'off topic' given that I started the topic? I'm keen to answer your questions. Would you prefer me to go further into taxes and other money-rabbing schemes like dog insurance on this thread, or start a new thread?

If we start threads does that mean we can use terminology however we wish, no matter how inaccurate?

[Arthur]

Another stupid money making Idea from politicians, you pay a tax on all insurance and the insurance company pays tax on it's profits. So of course it is a winner for government.

Our politicians look at a problem and think, how can we make more money out of it.

Me, I'm just a working class plonker and the solution is simple, all dogs in a public space are muzzled, big fine if they are not. End of problem.

Arthur.

[markwoods39]

Arthur I 100% agree with you,all dogs should be muzzled,INCL hunting dogs after all they do stray into public spaces. Everyone is happy then,end of problem???

[Arthur]

If the dogs are to drive the fox into a gun then fine by me as they don't need to bite, but I think hunters may not agree.

Arthur.

[George]

I understand that Labour has now done a U-turn on their proposal to force all dog owners to take out expensive insurance. What a shambles. Wait until after the election, though. Heaven forbid if they get back in, they'll think of plenty of new ways of sucking money out of us.

[mythoughts]

I understand that Labour has now done a U-turn on their proposal to force all dog owners to take out expensive insurance. What a shambles. Wait until after the election, though. Heaven forbid if they get back in, they'll think of plenty of new ways of sucking money out of us.

A massive U-Turn. Never underestimate the power of the huge majority of the UK's law-abiding dog-owners.
 
Now the Government should finally focus on the minority of scum that deliberately breed violent dogs and are involved in organising dog-fights.
 
These people are cruel, mindless idiots and inflict much pain. The RSPCA and police know who these groups are...give them both the proper powers to get rid of them and leave us that love and care for our laddies and lassies alone.

[Mighty Hatfield]

I understand that Labour has now done a U-turn on their proposal to force all dog owners to take out expensive insurance. What a shambles. Wait until after the election, though. Heaven forbid if they get back in, they'll think of plenty of new ways of sucking money out of us.

priceless.

Oh, er, it seems these 'ideas' may have been shevled, er, id better get on shapps and remark on how they will probably do something else to cost us money at some point, whilst making out its some sort of embarrasing u-turn for the government.

[jonmorris]

Did Grant actually say anything on this?

We all know that ALL parties will suggest policies and plans as 'ideas' and gauge the reaction; then go away and either quietly drop the idea or tweak it. If you employ good PR, you can say that you reacted to public opinion, or any number of other tricks.

The problem is, I think a lot of people are now wise to this - as well as suggesting something outrageous that gets loads of column inches in the press, while slipping out other press releases. The 'burying bad news' trick that was so embarrassingly exposed a few years back.

I am not specifically blaming Labour here; it seems to be one of the basic tricks of every Government here and abroad. There must be a handbook somewhere that says how to do it!