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Re: Jon Venables (Jamie Bulger's killer) back in prison..
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2010, 09:21:52 AM »

A decision was made to release the offenders, which was not a popular move, but can a ten year old be imprisoned  for the rest of their life? We are all very different people to who we were at 10 years old. I know that they did a terrible terrible thing but as an adult they may be different given support.


I agree we are different people in adult life to the child we were at ten. At ten, however, we knew the difference between right and wrong. At ten "wrong" is normally being what would normally be described as "naughty". However naughtiness and pure evil are totally different things.

Certainly I accept that Venables' was dragged up by low life no hopers (what a shame these people can reproduce) which undoubtedly caused him to become the murderer he is. My argument simply is that the damage done to him is likely to be irreversible and, consequently, allowing him ever to return to mainstream life should not have been countenanced.

I realise the idea of putting to death a child, even one like Venables, is a non starter to most people. However I would argue that people like Venables, because of what their upbringing has made them into, should never be re integrated into society and that, therefore, terminating their existence, as one would for example a rabid dog, may be seen as a more humane alternative to locking them away, probably in almost solitary confinement because of their crimes, for the rest of their lives.

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« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2010, 05:31:50 PM »
Geoff - Thank God you do not make the policies then for dealing with these 'sort' of children.

By rights, I should be 'put down' also because of my upbringing.  I have actually been asked by professionals how come I am as 'relatively normal' as I am - I cannot answer that!!  What was desperately needed for these - then children - was help in the way of 're-learning what they saw/did' etc.,

Who knows, even that may have not been right for them.

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Certainly I accept that Venables' was dragged up by low life no hopers (what a shame these people can reproduce) which undoubtedly caused him to become the murderer he is. My argument simply is that the damage done to him is likely to be irreversible and, consequently, allowing him ever to return to mainstream life should not have been countenanced.

I realise the idea of putting to death a child, even one like Venables, is a non starter to most people. However I would argue that people like Venables, because of what their upbringing has made them into, should never be re integrated into society and that, therefore, terminating their existence, as one would for example a rabid dog, may be seen as a more humane alternative to locking them away, probably in almost solitary confinement because of their crimes, for the rest of their lives.
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Re: Jon Venables (Jamie Bulger's killer) back in prison..
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2010, 05:52:22 PM »
Geoff - Thank God you do not make the policies then for dealing with these 'sort' of children.

By rights, I should be 'put down' also because of my upbringing. 

If you had taken the trouble to read all the posts to which I responded you would have realised I did not advocate putting down people because of their upbringing. To suggest that I did I find offensive not least because you have clearly not taken the time to read the posts to which my offering relates.

But being a big boy I promise not to spit out my dummy.
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Re: Jon Venables (Jamie Bulger's killer) back in prison..
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2010, 01:24:26 PM »
Geoff - Thank God you do not make the policies then for dealing with these 'sort' of children.

By rights, I should be 'put down' also because of my upbringing. 

If you had taken the trouble to read all the posts to which I responded you would have realised I did not advocate putting down people because of their upbringing. To suggest that I did I find offensive not least because you have clearly not taken the time to read the posts to which my offering relates.

But being a big boy I promise not to spit out my dummy.

But thats no fun!!!

Go on, spit it out ;D
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