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[Geoff]

So many people will take note of a headline and ignore the text below. In the case of The Mirror, Mail and the Sun my view is that they are generally peddlers of propaganda if you do not further investigate their rather rampant headline writing.

Whilst I agree with the underlying point about sensationalist tabloid headlines it is difficult to envisage how we could have expected the "red tops" to cover the recent horrific case involving the two pre teen psychopaths.  Few people, surely, could not have been horrified by what was done to two innocent children, whose lives have probably been irrepairably ruined. The manner in which the offences were described could, in my view, hardly have been toned down.

Of course the tabloids will report ALL news in their "sensationalist" style. It has always been like that and, no doubt, always will. But whichever way we spin it the underlying story remains the same.The press has always emphasised the bad over the good.  How often do we read of "billions wiped off stock values"when there is a market correction? But a similar rise in values warrants barely a mention.   

[George]

Here's some further insight from Myleene Klass herself on the fear she felt. Wouldn't you be frightened? It just goes to show why the law badly needs changing.

http://celebrity.uk.msn.com/news/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=151892232

[GhostTown68]

Here's some further insight from Myleene Klass herself on the fear she felt. Wouldn't you be frightened? It just goes to show why the law badly needs changing.

[url=http://celebrity.uk.msn.com/news/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=151892232]http://celebrity.uk.msn.com/news/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=151892232[/url]

To allow us to wave knives at people on our property? What exact detail of that flimsy article justifies the waving of a knife? You said youths, she's said men now - which was it? What time was it? What exactly were they doing? Had they broken in? Was anything taken?

[bbtzs]

Here's some further insight from Myleene Klass herself on the fear she felt. Wouldn't you be frightened? It just goes to show why the law badly needs changing.

[url=http://celebrity.uk.msn.com/news/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=151892232]http://celebrity.uk.msn.com/news/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=151892232[/url]

To allow us to wave knives at people on our property? What exact detail of that flimsy article justifies the waving of a knife? You said youths, she's said men now - which was it? What time was it? What exactly were they doing? Had they broken in? Was anything taken?

I dont see a great deal wrong with waving a knife at people who have attempted to break into my property that I am trying to scare away. What is the difference between a Youth and a young man in years then and which day is it that the description changes?

As a not too muscular lady Mylene obviously felt she had to do something to frighten them away. It may not have been wise to do so with a knife in case they returned and took it off her but jeez, do we need a federal case and judgement by social workers before we can do what we think is right to protect us and our families whilst on our own property? If intruders on my property left with one or two holes in them it would not be a cause of concern for me. (Dont be silly now and come up with the postman and Milkman bit!) I am talking of trespassers in places they have no right to be.

[GhostTown68]

Here's some further insight from Myleene Klass herself on the fear she felt. Wouldn't you be frightened? It just goes to show why the law badly needs changing.

http://celebrity.uk.msn.com/news/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=151892232[/]

To allow us to wave knives at people on our property? What exact detail of that flimsy article justifies the waving of a knife? You said youths, she's said men now - which was it? What time was it? What exactly were they doing? Had they broken in? Was anything taken?

I dont see a great deal wrong with waving a knife at people who have attempted to break into my property that I am trying to scare away. What is the difference between a Youth and a young man in years then and which day is it that the description changes?

As a not too muscular lady Mylene obviously felt she had to do something to frighten them away. It may not have been wise to do so with a knife in case they returned and took it off her but jeez, do we need a federal case and judgement by social workers before we can do what we think is right to protect us and our families whilst on our own property? If intruders on my property left with one or two holes in them it would not be a cause of concern for me. (Dont be silly now and come up with the postman and Milkman bit!) I am talking of trespassers in places they have no right to be.

Where does it say they were attempting to break into her property?

Say for example she waved the knife at these young boys/muscular thugs (delete as appropriate), and then they swore at her and jumped on her car a bit? Is she ok to go out and carve them to pieces? Or just cut them a bit? Perhaps a few martial art slashes of the air, y'know to let them know she means business?


Years ago we used to have a problem with the little scrotes in our street stealing our shopping trolleys. The wife was heavily pregnant at the time, so couldnt carry the shopping back without them. I would eventually take them back in 3s or 4s and get the money back (hey, times were hard!). One occasion I saw the little beggars down the side of my house trying to nick my quid with a screw driver. If I had seen them, wielding this sharp implement, and decided to shoot one, then tie the other one up and rape him violently (as George has promoted in his first post) - would that be ok? What if he was about 12, but looked a lot older, is that ok? WHO EXACTLY DECIDES?!

Surely we should look at shortening response times from the Police, rather than condoning acts of extreme violence and sexual assault?

[George]

GT68, you really are guilty of some seriously distorted detating tactics.
I referred to a scene I recall from a popular movie. As far as I'm aware, the scene was nothing to do with rape, so where did you get that idea from?
Then you accuse us of not being able to distinguish between yobs trying to extract £1 from a shopping trolley down an alley, and young men prowling around and up to no good in the garden of Myleene Klass' presumably quite large property. Next, you suggest we should turn a blind eye and just accept it if yobs are jumping up and down on our car.
I think it's wholly understandable that she'd fear the worst and grabbing a knife was her immediate reaction. What was she supposed to do - open the door and ask politely if they could explain their intentions?

[GhostTown68]

EXACT

GT68, you really are guilty of some seriously distorted detating tactics.
I referred to a scene I recall from a popular movie. As far as I'm aware, the scene was nothing to do with rape, so where did you get that idea from?
Then you accuse us of not being able to distinguish between yobs trying to extract £1 from a shopping trolley down an alley, and young men prowling around and up to no good in the garden of Myleene Klass' presumably quite large property. Next, you suggest we should turn a blind eye and just accept it if yobs are jumping up and down on our car.
I think it's wholly understandable that she'd fear the worst and grabbing a knife was her immediate reaction. What was she supposed to do - open the door and ask politely if they could explain their intentions?

EXACTLY! Thankyou for illustrating my point! HOW IN THE NAME OF SWEET JESUS CAN YOU KNOW THEY WERE 'UP TO NO GOOD'?

What if they were going to nick a pound out of her shopping trolleys?! How the hell could you tell the difference? What if its dark? They are armed with a sharp implement, would you wait and see if they put it in the shopping trolley, or in your stomach?!


You referred to a scene in Pulp Fiction where a man is tied up and then brutally raped...well you actually referred to two films but applying the same ludicrous approach as many do on here, I took your mistake and ran with it. You meant to say Lock Stock, and even that bit you got a bit wrong. You're forgiven though 

[Lid]

Please remember not to descend to making personal attacks on members. I have just deleted the post by bbtzs preceding this one because in my view it makes a direct judgement against another member in the 3rd person.

[GhostTown68]

I'm not sure how much more of these personal attacks I can take to be honest - I have never felt so threatened and bullied. I hope the moderators of this site take my fears on board and address the issue.

[bbtzs]

I shall bring to the attention of the moderators any items thought to be unsuitable in future. Thank you.

[GhostTown68]

If these attacks do not cease, I will have no option but to leave the forum for my own well being. I should not have to experience this kind of mental torture, given recent events I think the moderators should be enforcing the new rules more vehemently.

[Kay]

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[GhostTown68]

I'm being genuine Kay! This has made me rethink my encounter with you previously, and I must apologise as I now know how intimidating and threatening this can feel. I feel like I cant post on here without a certain poster attacking me, calling me brainwashed and dismissing anything/everything I say.

I am in dialogue with the moderators about this as we speak.

[Geoff]

For those of us old enough to remember the comedy genius that was "Monty Python's Flying Circus"--this is getting silly.

I haven't read the Mylene Klass story but if people were "jumping up and down on her car" as posters on here have suggested I think it can reasonably be assumed they were "up to no good". Anyone who believes one should ask what the intentions of people behaving in this way really are needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

And can anyone seriously feel threatened by comments on a forum such as this one? I know everyone is made differently but I really do find that astonishing. Particularly someone who appears, if I am reading their post correctly, they would feel sufficiently confident to confront a group of young men jumping on their car and ask them their intentions.

Over to you Monty.

[trekbat]

If someone CHOOSES to ignore the laws of the land and other people's rights (property, privacy, peace of mind) then they should forfeit their rights. So, if anything unpleasant happens to them - get shot, beaten up or fall through a skylight - they should have no recourse to the law (and waste more taxpayers' money). Unlike the current nonsense where they ignore the laws they want to yet demand others be upheld. Absurd.

That's not to say people are allowed to rig booby traps - Police and Fire Service personnel may need to force an entry and their jobs are dangerous enough already.

From the coverage I've seen, Hussain was a law-abiding businessman contributing to the economy. He suffered a surprise, savage and prolonged assault on himself and his family. He acted without premeditation. He was the victim. He should not have been convicted (which will automatically bar him from entering the US).

Meanwhile the real villain was not convicted (even though he has string of previous) and has gone on to reoffend. And will probably claim his head injury as a mitigating circumstance to escape justice - again.

It may be the law but it is not justice.