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mickeyl

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Quietening the A1M
« on: June 02, 2008, 02:30:33 PM »
The A1M continues to be an audio nuisance to some parts of the Handside ward - particularly the south-west corner

Some people think that having whisper tarmac in full on both lanes will do the trick. Other people believe noise screens are also needed as well as whisper tarmac
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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2008, 09:49:35 PM »
Hi Mickeyl

There has been long and protracted discussions about this issue, with a number of people voicing opinions about the solution.

A working group has been trying to get some action on this from a variety of sources, however little real progress has been made as (I believe) the organisations can't seem to agree whose responsibility it is to sort out the noise. Hertfordshire Highways apparently point people at the Highways Agency, whilst the Highways Agency apparently say it's a local government issue.

Tony Skottowe is on the working group I believe, try contacting him directly for more info. His contact details are on a separate post on the forum.

Paul
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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2008, 09:54:59 PM »
I know that a much better source of information is Grant Shapps MP's Quieter A1M web-site http://www.quieter-a1m.com/
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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2008, 11:11:00 PM »
I know that a much better source of information is Grant Shapps MP's Quieter A1M web-site http://www.quieter-a1m.com/


Funny, that, since Tony is a member of the campaign. Why would the campaign website be better informed than a member of the campaign team? Do you know something I don't? Or does Grant?

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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 12:33:09 PM »
Hello Paul

I guess that the many residents of the Handside ward who are affected by the A1M noise, may be reassured by your colleague's membership of a A1M working party.  Unfortunately this working party seems to hide its light under a bushel as it does not appear to have a web-site or show up on the Council's web-site and a search on Google does not reveal anything.

Traditionally 'working parties' can be anything from a talking shop to an effective lobby or action team. It does not take a rocket scientist to guess at which end of the spectrum your colleague's working party lies.

Another point to reflect on, is that in spite of the interest in matters to do with the A1M which you associate with your colleague, his web-site which includes around nine areas or items of concern to him, does not mention the A1M noise problems. So one could be forgiven for thinking that it does not rate that high in his priorities in spite of his working party membership.

At least with Grant Shapps MP, his A1M web-site [www.Quieter-A1M.com] is very positive and is a record of achievement
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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2008, 08:47:22 AM »
Hello Paul

I guess that the many residents of the Handside ward who are affected by the A1M noise, may be reassured by your colleague's membership of a A1M working party.  Unfortunately this working party seems to hide its light under a bushel as it does not appear to have a web-site or show up on the Council's web-site and a search on Google does not reveal anything.

Traditionally 'working parties' can be anything from a talking shop to an effective lobby or action team. It does not take a rocket scientist to guess at which end of the spectrum your colleague's working party lies.

Another point to reflect on, is that in spite of the interest in matters to do with the A1M which you associate with your colleague, his web-site which includes around nine areas or items of concern to him, does not mention the A1M noise problems. So one could be forgiven for thinking that it does not rate that high in his priorities in spite of his working party membership.

At least with Grant Shapps MP, his A1M web-site [www.Quieter-A1M.com] is very positive and is a record of achievement

If I can chip in here, with a response to "mickeyl" the Liberal Democrats do not have a permanent website on the A1 M - but we often have items on our main website, and have done since the time we first began the campaign. 

You mention Tony Skottowe's website and the fact that Tony does not have an item on this subject on his website.

Please bear in mind that we have a Handside representative on the county council, and since this is a county council issue rather than a Borough one, he is a more appropriate spokesman on the subject.  Without Malcolm, this campaign would never have existed at all.  It would therefore not be appropriate for Tony to be the spokesperson on that issue, and there is no reason for him to have an item on his website which is not there for political campaigning, but for issues affecting his work as a borough councillor. 

Grant does do a good job of keeping up the website, and we all appreciate that.  He does a brilliant job, and is MP for all of us, not just the Conservatives.  But bear in mind that it is a multi-party campaign, which, like almost all of the really good campaigns in the area, were started by the Liberal Democrats and then taken up by Grant.  We're glad that Grant has given them his backing and that he is happy to work in a cross party way, and we hope that he will take the time to publicly thank the LibDems for all the great work they have done on many cross-party issues.
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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2008, 09:17:26 AM »
Grant has a meeting with the "Minister" on Mon 9th June 2008 to discuss this issue.

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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2008, 09:58:52 AM »
Grant has a meeting with the "Minister" on Mon 9th June 2008 to discuss this issue.

Well, that's good to know, and I hope that throws up something helpful for us all.

Cheers
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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2008, 11:09:33 AM »
Grant has a meeting with the "Minister" on Mon 9th June 2008 to discuss this issue.


That's correct and I've actually invited both Conservative and LibDem councillors to come and meet the minister with me.  We will of course report back via this forum, the http://www.Quieter-A1M.com website and the local press.

More news when we have it.

Also, I'm also meeting with a resident who has done an incredible job of sound mapping Handside and all areas of Welwyn Hatfield which are affected by motorway noise.  I'm meeting separately with him tomorrow and hope to be able to post his work online soon too.

Best wishes
Grant.

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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2008, 12:27:17 PM »
Thanks Grant, we look forward to positive developments.

Cheers 8)
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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2008, 05:20:20 PM »
Any feedback Grant?

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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2008, 05:40:35 PM »
He's posted it in the other quiet A1M thread http://www.shapps.com/forum/index.php?topic=3249.0

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The meeting with the Minister was quite helpful and he's made a couple of specific pledges. Read about it here:
http://www.welwynhatfieldconservatives.com/index.php?sectionid=3&pagenumber=383

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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2008, 06:42:07 PM »
Ah! I think the forum's getting a bit messy

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Re: Quietening the A1M
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2008, 10:11:12 AM »
Certainly is.  Nearly as bad as my spare room!
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A1(M) Noise Suppression
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2008, 07:23:45 PM »

What is the update on the A1M noise suppression farrago?  It all seems to be very splintered with a breakdown in central communication.  Grant Shapps' bespoke website for the issue hasn't been updated for over 6 months.  Maybe he's lost interest in this important local issue?

The LibDems most recent pamphlet says that councillors have met and 'their recommendation has gone, via our MP, to the minister for a decision'.  Jolly good, so what does this mean? Where can we see this report?     etc.

At least it is good to see that resolution of the issue has moved on from blind faith in the illusionary 'whisper-quiet' tarmac.

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P.S. The A1(M) doesn't appear in a search of this site; it's an important enough subject to have it's own area as it covers many districts.
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