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[kevyn]

At least we can boast that we have the biggest police station...

[jonmorris]

The crime rates must be going down, having seen the shiny new buses Arriva are introducing that have London-style screens to protect the drivers and signs on the outside saying CCTV is in operation onboard.

I wonder how long until all the buses will get them?

[mythoughts]

http://www.stalbansreview.co.uk/news/4554159.Terrified_Hatfield_family_threatened_by_armed_robbers/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8209433.stm#
 
Interesting to note the reassuring line that such occurences are rare in Hertfordshire.
 

[jonmorris]

The police love to say it was 'rare', because they're not actually lying - if you took such incidents as a percentage of the population as a whole.

That still doesn't really help those who are affected though.

[mythoughts]

http://www.whtimes.co.uk/content/whtimes/news/story.aspx?brand=WHTOnline&category=News&tBrand=HertsCambsOnline&tCategory=newslatestWHT&itemid=WEED27%20Oct%202009%2012%3A24%3A56%3A990
 

[mythoughts]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8544136.stm#
 
Should all be on CCTV.

In additional, apparently, there was a shop robbery and a mugging across Welwyn Garden today; in the town centre and on the "West Side" respectively.
 
I wonder if they are linked? Actually, it's even more worrying if they're not! I.E better to have one thug out there than have several unrelated scum-bags robbing tills and mugging people at the same time.

[Lid]

Should all be on CCTV.

I shouldn't bank on it. My wife was assaulted near Lloyd's bank a while back and the camera that should have recorded the action was zoomed in on Subway instead of observing its whole zone.

[mythoughts]

http://www.stalbansreview.co.uk/news/5036532.Mugger_strikes_in_Welwyn_Garden_City/
 
Marsden Road is described as normally a quiet residential road in the report. I imagine it is on the whole.  However, just over a year ago the hairdressers, Changes, was robbed at gunpoint and previously, the now gone post-office, was robbed by someone pretending to have a bomb.

[mythoughts]

http://www.stalbansreview.co.uk/news/5049141.Woman_s_handbag_snatched_in_Welwyn_Garden_City/
 
Though not mentioned in the article, some people are saying that the victim had just taken out a large sum of money from the cash-point machine in Marsden Road before she was mugged. This same machine had been tampered with by card-skimmers late last year.

[mythoughts]

http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/armed_robbery_at_welwyn_garden_city_pub_1_176633

[mythoughts]

http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/burglars_hammer_through_roof_of_welwyn_garden_city_newsagents_1_186254

Judging by the shape of the hole left in this case, I reckon the police ought to be looking for an Ace Venturer look-alike!
 
http://www.webjutsu.com.au/wp-content/themes/default/images/aceventura_front.jpg
 
http://www.stalbansreview.co.uk/news/5052496.Burglars_cut_through_roof_of_Welwyn_Garden_City_shop/

 
Following last week's mugging of an elderly lady in this area, Marsden Road was described in the Review as normally a quiet residential road.
 
http://www.stalbansreview.co.uk/news/5036532.Mugger_strikes_in_Welwyn_Garden_City/

[Anne]

If it isn't now, then it will be when our Hertfordshire police are off helping out the failing Bedfordshire police... http://www.stalbansreview.co.uk/news/5074511.Welwyn_Hatield_MP_warns_of_police_merger/

Look at Grant's Twitter entry: http://twitter.com/grantshapps
and sign the petition: http://www.keeppolicelocal.com/

[Mighty Hatfield]

If it isn't now, then it will be when our Hertfordshire police are off helping out the failing Bedfordshire police... http://www.stalbansreview.co.uk/news/5074511.Welwyn_Hatield_MP_warns_of_police_merger/

Look at Grant's Twitter entry: http://twitter.com/grantshapps
and sign the petition: http://www.keeppolicelocal.com/

to be fair, no-one is actually suggesting that this will become a more violent place to live if the police forces are merged.

Are they?

[smallvoice]

You're right, Mighty Hatfield, but I understand where Anne is coming from ...

If merger affects service delivery negatively then offenders are going to be free to reoffend until the resources are there to deal with them, or the offences they are committing, thoroughly and effectively. 

For instance, less than one year since collaboration, I hear there is currently a backlog of circa 700 crimes in the joint chemical laboratory (with jobs dating back to October last year).  That means that there has been no possibility of potential forensic detections from those submissions.  And, in order to clear the backlog, chemical treatment is being abandoned or discontinued for crimes that have been finalised (detected or undetected) ... so there will not ever be any possibility of potential forensic detections from some of those submissions. 

Is this the level of service we contribute money towards and aspire to for Hertfordshire?

[mythoughts]

You're right, Mighty Hatfield, but I understand where Anne is coming from ...

If merger affects service delivery negatively then offenders are going to be free to reoffend until the resources are there to deal with them, or the offences they are committing, thoroughly and effectively. 

For instance, less than one year since collaboration, I hear there is currently a backlog of circa 700 crimes in the joint chemical laboratory (with jobs dating back to October last year).  That means that there has been no possibility of potential forensic detections from those submissions.  And, in order to clear the backlog, chemical treatment is being abandoned or discontinued for crimes that have been finalised (detected or undetected) ... so there will not ever be any possibility of potential forensic detections from some of those submissions. 

Is this the level of service we contribute money towards and aspire to for Hertfordshire?

They'll probably end up on this show in five years' time if the merger goes ahead:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/nzVm_jh8AkA&amp;ap=%2526fmt%3D18&amp;rel=0&amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/nzVm_jh8AkA&amp;ap=%2526fmt%3D18&amp;rel=0&amp;fs=1</a>